A minor disaster

Darren said: "That's what we had yesterday. The sewage backed up and we couldn't flush our toilets for 18 hours! Even after that short amount of time I was becoming crazy, like an animal. So with that infinitely small glimpse into disasters I got an idea of just how bad places can get out there when a real disaster strikes. Anytime I lose any of my modern conveniences (power outage, etc) I can barely function at all, so I can't imagine how these disaster regions can operate at all. And the people who wanted to stay in New Orleans with the sewage backed up, what kind of people are these?"

Neutron2k said: "i have no idea but the word brain doesnt come into it!"

AngelaCea said: "Yes, out in the country when your electric goes out you think of that backup plan that you never took care of :eek: Like having a fireplace, candles, chickens living in the yard that you could eat without refrigeration, vegetables growing in the garden to keep you alive! Most of us would be lost without the internet and electric, but you better have a motor home and a laptop as a backup if you have the money so you can leave a disaster area and move on should something bad happen!"

Darren said: "I'm just imaging the smell alone in a flood area! There is nothing nastier than standing water, except maybe standing water with raw sewage in it. I am really greatful for the fact I live in a place where natural disasters never seem to happen."

AngelaCea said: "They happen in Ohio BK, just ask those in Xenia, Ohio :eek: :eek: [url]http://www.fla321.com/kitty_usa/321/id10.html[/url] :eek: :eek:"

Darren said: "Have you ever seen the movie Gummo? It's losely about the tornados in Xenia. Luckily I'm nowhere near there anyway."

AngelaCea said: "Cleveland gets hit by nasty weather, I know, I have seen cars sitting on their tops upside down on 77 with the city as a background in the blizzards up there! :eek: :eek: Did you forget this storm BK :confused: [url]http://www.bceo.org/78blizzardrev.html[/url] This overview is reprinted from a report by United Press International's Jay Gibian. The report, entitled Blizzard - An Ohio UPI Broadcast Special, was issued February 17, 1978. The report was re-typed here in its original broadcast copy form minus the all-caps rendering, which is how radio copy used to be typed for easier reading by the announcer. -- Webmaster. [B]A storm of unprecedented magnitude....that's what the National Weather Service terms the blizzard which whipped Ohio last month. What occurred on January 26th, 1978 in Ohio was not a blizzard. What did occur was even rarer and even more dangerous: a severe blizzard....the worst of winter storms.[/B] The National Weather Service defines a "severe blizzard" as a storm with winds of 45 miles per hour or greater; a great density of falling or blowing snow; and temperatures of 10 degrees or less. [B]In fact, winds gusted to more than 100 miles per hour over much of the state, with sustained winds in the 45-60 mph range. Record snowfalls were recorded in many areas....and all-time low barometric pressure records were shattered as the intense storm whipped the state.[/B] With the assistance of Ed Degan....a meteorologist at the Akron-Canton Airport's Weather Service Office, UPI has summarized the development of that storm-of-storms: On January 24th, two seemingly unrelated low pressure areas, one in the western Gulf of Mexico and the other in northern North Dakota, began to develop. The North Dakota low was expected to pass north of Ohio, posing no great weather threat to the state. The gulf low was forecast to move gradually northeastward toward Ohio. Rain was expected to develop over the state, changing to snow, as colder air moved in behind the storm system. On Wednesday, January 25th, all the weather patterns seemed to be occurring as forecast. The Gulf low moved into northern Louisiana during the morning, the other system was moving to the east. Then the first signs of something ominous began to appear. The North Dakota low began tracking more to the southeast and atmospheric pressure, north of the Gulf low, began to fall rapidly. It became apparent to meteorologists that the two low pressure systems were on a collision course....and that collision would occur over, or very near, the state of Ohio. At 4:30 p.m., the Weather Service issued heavy snow warnings for northwestern Ohio and a winter storm warning for the remainder of the state. [B]By early Wednesday evening, the low from North Dakota was tracking directly toward Ohio. It then became obvious that a very dangerous weather situation faced Ohioans.[/B] Forecasters issued blizzard warnings for the entire state at 9 p.m., January 25th. The weather conditions at this time, however, were misleading....and those conditions are blamed for many being surprised by the storm. Rain had spread over Ohio and temperatures were in the 40s across most of the state. The wind increased slightly as midnight approached, but conditions were more typical of an early spring rain storm, than those preceding a disaster. Midnight passed, however, and wind speeds continued to increase. It swiftly became evident that a storm of unprecedented magnitude was imminent. [B]But then the two storms met and did something that even the meteorologists....who had expected a blizzard....did not foresee. The two low pressure centers twisted together....a very rare and dangerous occurrence. Warm air began to flow into Ohio from the north and colder air into the state from the south.[/B] The rain abruptly changed to snow, spreading northeastward and gaining in intensity. [B]Wind speeds, by that time, had reached the 70 mile per hour range and gusts of more than 100 miles per hour downed power lines, billboards, mobile homes, and tree limbs.[/B] And then the snow....caught by the strong winds....began to form deep, deep drifts. [B]An entire semi-trailer truck was buried in one snow bank near Mansfield. The driver was not rescued until nearly a week later.[/B] [B]Hundreds upon hundreds of motorists were stranded in their cars along nearly every highway in the state. The Ohio Turnpike, for the first time in history, was completely shut down. Interstate highways were, for the most part, impassable. Smaller roadways in nearly every county were invisible beneath the snow.[/B] Visibility was often reported at zero. [B]Electric service to thousands of homes across the state was disrupted. Many persons were forced to leave their frigid homes.[/B] Suffering, discomfort, and danger were, by then, commonplace. Deaths occurred. [B]Officials urged all Ohioans to remain at home as temperatures dropped to near zero. Wind chill factors across the state plummeted to near 60 degrees below zero.[/B] In all, 35 persons died during that storm. Officials, even today, say some bodies still may be buried in unmelted snow drifts. [B]The Blizzard of 1978 was, in fact, the worst storm to ever occur in Ohio.[/B] I remember that storm BK, it was -20 below zero for about 3 weeks! :eek: If I recall correctly, 1977 was a bad one too! I was a salesman on the road right in the middle of that crap driving a Ford Maverick around the country!"

Darren said: "I do remember the "Blizzard of '78". :)"

AngelaCea said: "You better get ready to move in case it hits again :eek: :eek:"

brick said: "[QUOTE=web-mastery]That's what we had yesterday. The sewage backed up and we couldn't flush our toilets for 18 hours! Even after that short amount of time I was becoming crazy, like an animal. So with that infinitely small glimpse into disasters I got an idea of just how bad places can get out there when a real disaster strikes. Anytime I lose any of my modern conveniences (power outage, etc) I can barely function at all, so I can't imagine how these disaster regions can operate at all. And the people who wanted to stay in New Orleans with the sewage backed up, what kind of people are these?[/QUOTE] Thant's Cleveland for you :D Just kidding. If this is this bad could you imagine 3rd world countries. Expecially in really urban areas of the world. In India for example there are slumps with tens of thousands of people stuffed into a few Sq mile of a city. With no sewage system or clean water. There are many places like this through out the world."

AngelaCea said: "There are people right down the street from me that live year around without electric, back in the 1800's everyone lived without electric, it is a matter of learning to live without this stuff, it can be done! It is a very different way of life that modern communities do not support, the Amish still live that way but they have the support of the entire community behind them so they can do it! :o"

edwin said: "many parts of the world still do not have clean running water"

brick said: "[QUOTE=edwin]many parts of the world still do not have clean running water[/QUOTE] If I can recall, about 25% of the world dosn't have direct access to clean water. That's like saying 400 members of this forum don't have access to clean water :eek:"

edwin said: "that is unreal! the main reason people are healthy nowadays is because of 1) healthy drinking water - running water 2) sewage places that don't have this are screwed"

AngelaCea said: "We have discussed this issue of the government here in the USA letting bad sewer systems dump raw sewage into the lakes and rivers, this has been going on for 100's of years now! [url]http://www.web-mastery.net/thread2344.html[/url] So we all drink small amounts of it, if not for chemicals being added to the water we would all get sick! Mexicans can drink their water but Americans can't :eek:"

edwin said: "why are your neighbors living without electric?"

AngelaCea said: "Some people choose to Edwin because they may be mentally ill, don't work or live off the land, burn wood and eat animals like chickens and deer, they grow their own food in the garden and trade with local farmers (work for food) :eek:"

edwin said: "so they're mentally ill? are the roomates at the asylum?"

chris3471 said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea]Some people choose to Edwin because they may be mentally ill, don't work or live off the land, burn wood and eat animals like chickens and deer, they grow their own food in the garden and trade with local farmers (work for food) :eek:[/QUOTE] Or they may have neglected to pay their light bill. :D"

edwin said: "yeah, or deadbeats is right :)"

Heather said: "He (BK) didn't even look in the garage (luckily) because it ran up in there. It was NASTY. The Amish just lie! They do it to avoid paying taxes. My humble.."

edwin said: "the amish have creepy hats. don't get me started."

AngelaCea said: "[QUOTE=edwin]so they're mentally ill? are the roomates at the asylum?[/QUOTE] You tell us Edwin, you voted for Bush and Cheney! :eek: :D"

brick said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea]You tell us Edwin, you voted for Bush and Cheney! :eek: :D[/QUOTE] I can't believe this!!!!! This is an outrage!!!!"

AngelaCea said: "Yes, sad but true, Edwin is a crazy smart guy, you got to be crazy to vote for Bush :eek: :eek:"

brick said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea]Yes, sad but true, Edwin is a crazy smart guy, you got to be crazy to vote for Bush :eek: :eek:[/QUOTE] So the majority of Americans are Crazy???? :D :p"

AngelaCea said: "The majority of Americans voted for Al Gore in 2000, the Supreme Court appointed Bush President becase of the Chief Justice who was appointed by Nixon (a Republican) in a corrupt deal brokered by Bush Senior to get his administration back in power through the back door! :eek: Cut and paste the following key words into any search engine, you will see what I am talking about! 2000 election fraud Bush :eek: :eek: :eek:"

brick said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea]The majority of Americans voted for Al Gore in 2000, the Supreme Court appointed Bush President becase of the Chief Justice who was appointed by Nixon (a Republican) in a corrupt deal brokered by Bush Senior to get his administration back in power through the back door! :eek: Cut and paste the following key words into any search engine, you will see what I am talking about! 2000 election fraud Bush :eek: :eek: :eek:[/QUOTE] I'm talking about this past election, in 2000 bush was unproven as a leader. In the 2004 election the American people had 4 years to give this guy an audition and they still voted in favor of keeping him??????"

AngelaCea said: "No, there was election fraud in Ohio in 2004 that gave him another term! Cut and paste the following keywords into your favorite search engine! Ohio 2004 election bush :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:"

brick said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea]No, there was election fraud in Ohio in 2004 that gave him another term! Cut and paste the following keywords into your favorite search engine! Ohio 2004 election bush :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:[/QUOTE] If the election was decided by a fruad in Ohio then wouldn't this be front page news????????????"

AngelaCea said: "It was front page news!"

Neutron2k said: "not in uk it wasnt lol"

edwin said: "it wasn't front page news anywhere :)"

AngelaCea said: "That was not a minor disaster for America and Ohio but a major one, and it is still in the news, don't fall for Edwin's Republican propaganda! :eek:"