Why do people sign up for a forum and not post anything.

Darksat said: "Why do people sign up for a forum and not post anything. I have 26 members on my forum and 6 of them have not posted anything, one has a homepage URL but the rest have nothing, I fail to see the point."

Darren said: "1) Very few people who join ever post 2) Of those who join, very few really contribute I'm not sure why they join, though. Maybe the expect a newsletter or something along those lines?"

Darksat said: "yeah it seems to be 1/3 dont post, 1/3 only make 1 or 2 and 1/3 make a good contribution, I know a couple of them joined up to access my underworld section and to send me the odd PM but there is still that unknown 1/3rd. it seems to be fairly universal. perhaps I should start sending them newsletters."

Darren said: "The "lurkers" are okay. Sometimes you can suck them in to the conversation. But I also think a lot of people these days use Curl to register accounts on forums. I know a "FOAF" did it this summer and it was pretty effective ;) So is that new guy really a guy...or is he just a bot?"

Darksat said: "Yeah he is really a guy. he is a jehovas witness ASP/PHP programmer with a shitload of skill. Strange but true, he is quite good and has posted a lot in the underworld section of my site."

edwin said: "i post! i post! i post a lot! :D"

quinny said: "i hate newsletters :mad: i there one with this :confused: i always say no to them unless i really want it"

edwin said: "i never read newsletters! just hit delete! :cool:"

Darksat said: "I delete about 70% of the ones I recieve, occasionally they are informative but most just try to sell you stuff."

edwin said: "i mean who has the time? if i read all the email i had i would have no time to be posting leader. :D"

quinny said: "but your no longer the posting leader :D"

edwin said: "that's a very touchy issue with me! :mad:"

Darksat said: "You should have quit while you were ahead. ;)"

quinny said: "it's all in the past now"

raven said: "I belong to a couple of forums that I have never posted on. My reason for registering could be one of three things: 1) I want to register my name before someone else does, just incase I ever want to start posting. 2) There is a thread I want to follow and get email alerts when someone posts to it. Can't do that if you're not registered. 3) I want to be able to see "last posts since I was there last" or whatever it's called and that info isn't saved unless you are registered."

Darksat said: "Wow I never thought of that. Thanks so my no posters are just professional Lurkers."

quinny said: "i do that on some sport forums. look it up to check the latest news and gossip"

Darksat said: "So why didnt you say so earlier smartarse. :D :p :rolleyes:"

quinny said: "but i may have posted once or twice"

Darksat said: "ok [IMG]http://www.incorporateacompany.com/images/trans.gif[/IMG]"

Darren said: "Thanks for the insight, Raven. I hadn't thought of those reasons."

Heather said: "Good points. Others do stuff like send out PM's that you might not *see* on the surface."

Darksat said: "That I actually had considered as 2 people who signed up for my forum PMd me even though they have no posts."

edwin said: "then there's people like bigtony. they join forums to spew psychotic babble all day. any random thought that pops into their crazy head. :D"

raven said: "[QUOTE=web-mastery]Thanks for the insight, Raven. I hadn't thought of those reasons.[/QUOTE] You're welcome :)"

Darksat said: "Bigtony isnt crazy, just a little bit to paranoid. ive seen him post on some other forums and Im actually surprised to find he has a fairly competent brain."

edwin said: "he's a loser though. can't make any money etc."

AngelaCea said: "Real funny Edwin, calling me a loser when you can't even put up pages for your main website :p Edwin could not even take time to build the Brigid and Raven fan club even when I asked him to put it up on FreeWebTown for nothing. Let's talk about losers Ed? How many venture capitalists have contacted you wanting a piece of your company Edwin? They have contacted me Edwin, have any contacted you? :confused: Have you helped me build sites Edwin :confused: I know Edwin, you were just kidding..... :p"

Heather said: "No one is a loser. Everyone just has different projects. What ever happened to the VC's, BigT?"

AngelaCea said: "[QUOTE=edwin]then there's people like bigtony. they join forums to spew psychotic babble all day. any random thought that pops into their crazy head. :D[/QUOTE] Nothing happened to them Brigid, they sent me a contract that I never signed, I work on my terms, not theirs. Yeah Edwin, this is a funny post, true to your calling as one of the WM Three Stooges. :p :D Real Funny Stuff Ed :cool:"

edwin said: "thank you. i knew you would like it ! :)"

Heather said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea]Nothing happened to them Brigid, they sent me a contract that I never signed, I work on my terms, not theirs.[/QUOTE] You are always better served to work under your own terms. Contracts are funny things, in the way that they stink. Plus the profits are then yours! This year is the year to get it done! We are only 6 days in, so it is a blank slate.. Everything is looking pretty good so far!"

edwin said: "that's why i work for myself."

AngelaCea said: "Yeah Edwin, you should be in the CIA because it is all a secret to all of us (your work). Payback is coming to you Edwin, when DarkSat, Oneill and I make it big, we are going to leave you behind for not contributing. :mad:"

Heather said: "There are just soooooo many opportunities out there it is hard not to want to work for yourself. I just got done reading an article in IBD about G00G. Analysts ended 2004 with a profit of $1.25 a share.. and revenue more than doubled to 3.1 Billion.. Anyone see where this is leading?"

AngelaCea said: "I can tell you where it is going to lead, I was the first one to tell everyone over 6 months ago also. It is going to lead to IBM and Google being one company in the end. :cool:"

Heather said: "I call P I M P. :) Ladies is pimps too, go and brush your shoulder off.. JayZ."

AngelaCea said: "You have been spending too much time with Edwin :confused: :cool:"

Heather said: "LOL@BigT. Life is too short to cry. One of my favorite commercials ends like this: "There are no problems, only solutions" 3M."

Darren said: "What are your plans for 2005, BigTony?"

AngelaCea said: "Just to keep a job until something online breaks a profit big time. You BK? It is not an easy thing to make big money online without a hell of a lot of traffic and you can not get a hell of a lot of traffic from high SERP's in a few keywords. You have to advertise, do press releases, engage in joint ventures with other sites, I have seen folks do TV segments like PC Mike and syndicate those to drive traffic to websites. So it is much more than just getting high SERP's that put a online venture over the top and that is what most webmasters shoot for, but it is not enough to be successful. I have many number 1 SERP positions and you are lucky to get 10-15 hits a day even from a number 1 position in certain keywords. So I am keeping my day job until something happens."

Heather said: "That is why keyword research is so very important. Tools like wordtracker and Overture can give you some ideas on keyword phrases to aim for. Traffic isn't as hard as you might think."

Darren said: "Online marketing is my business now. Google traffic is very profitable in the right keyword categories. If you have a good business model, you should have no problem making it online. You just have to think positive."

Darksat said: "Just get creative with your advertising and content, if you come up with something unusual and unique you will get a load of traffic."

edwin said: "i gots ton of traffic and i make all my money off the internet."

Darksat said: "I thought you delivered pizza."

quinny said: "thats to keep fit :D"

AngelaCea said: "Edwin runs porno sites and that is why he can't tell anyone :p"

AngelaCea said: "[QUOTE=web-mastery]Online marketing is my business now. Google traffic is very profitable in the right keyword categories. If you have a good business model, you should have no problem making it online. You just have to think positive.[/QUOTE] BK, you need to explain more, "Google traffic" is profitable how, selling products or Adsense? Edwin, you can't get any info out of, he seems to want to hide in his crib and make fabrications all day long. :p"

Darksat said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea] Edwin, you can't get any info out of, he seems to want to hide in his crib and make fabrications all day long. :p[/QUOTE] LOL Nasty, I like it, :cool: apart from society of nerds which dosnt exactly blow me away he seems to know a lot though, or at least how to talk the talk. :D but i suppose he has been around here a long time. :D"

Heather said: "Having several revenue streams is optimal. That is the way that I look at it. The market today has a lot of room for growth. Search is one of the best sectors to be in right now. It is classified as "Internet Content" right now in IBD. When you flip through your favorite magazine, what is 65 percent of the magazine? How about your favorite newspaper?"

Darksat said: "[QUOTE=Brigid] When you flip through your favorite magazine, what is 65 percent of the magazine? [/QUOTE] Porn ;) [QUOTE=Brigid] How about your favorite newspaper?[/QUOTE] News. :cool: Both generate a lot of revenue. :D"

AngelaCea said: "If Edwin was not such a secretive hermit with his friends and knew how to work with and communicate with others he could be a great partner. Edwin is very smart, but keeps it all locked up for no one else to know about or he just likes being a solitary hermit and is happy alone. Again, I asked him to start the Brigid and Raven fan club so members here could get links from the fan club site and Edwin will not even comment on it, my theory about him is true, proven and fact."

Darksat said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea] my theory about him is true, proven and fact.[/QUOTE] What the cross dressing?"

AngelaCea said: "I don't know, Edwin and I have not lived together :mad:"

Heather said: "LOL@Darksat. Not the answer, but a college try, anyhow! I like to cross dress. I like to wear boxer shorts and flannel shirts from time to time."

AngelaCea said: "Why do people sign up for a forum and not post anything :confused: They are afraid that Edwin or Oneill might respond :p :p :D"

Darksat said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea]I don't know, Edwin and I have not lived together :mad:[/QUOTE] you must be gutted. ;)"

AngelaCea said: "At least my official title is not whore like yours big boy :p :D"

edwin said: "give it time! it happens to the best of us! :eek:"

Darksat said: "Big tonys ass is to old to be on the game. :p"

Heather said: "If it's too loud, you're too old."

edwin said: "bigtony was too old 10 years ago!"

quinny said: "WOW imagine being that old :D"

Darksat said: "Dont want to. :rolleyes:"

edwin said: "nor do i, my friends."

AngelaCea said: "The problem with you young kids is that you think you are smart. Edwin is not as smart as he portrays himself to be, because if he possessed great wisdom he would use his old friends to glean knowledge from. So the lesson here young friends is to not follow Edwin's reasoning because you can ask O'Neill himself, without his Father who is the brilliant engineer behind O'Neill feed systems, O'Neill would be nothing but Edwin's forum buddy. But since he has respect for his Father, he is heir to the O'Neill Empire while Edwin is left out in the cold with his youthful thoughts, not gaining wisdom from his elders. Too bad for poor Edwin, he has never learned the lesson of, "you can learn more with your ears than you can with your mouth" :p :p :p"

edwin said: "are you in one of your bitter moods today?"

AngelaCea said: "Zip it Post Whore :p :p :p"

quinny said: "he always is :D"

Heather said: "I try to drop knowledge sometimes. Most people don't listen, though. Oh well."

AngelaCea said: "Edwin knows it all already, he is the "smartest guy in Akron" :p ;) :D"

Heather said: "So BigT, how are partnerships beneficial?"

AngelaCea said: "Most of the time they are not, unless you have a competent partner that has energy and drive."

Heather said: "I tried it before, and it ended up being a big disappointment. The person was a loser that didn't possess half of the skills he claimed he had, or the "drive" in which you speak of. It then added a competitor to the same field, too."

Darksat said: "Yeah, I had a protege who I taught webdesign to, he then turned around and tried to steal some of my business when I moved to Galway, so I had to destroy him. That was fun. :D"

edwin said: "i too have been double-crossed by partners. that is why i'm a lone wolf. :eek:"

Darksat said: "SO its not the fact that no one likes you. :p only messing. I have trouble finding people who can do things I cant or who partnering with is actually of benifit to me, so far I have only found one, he is my main agent and is good at pulling in business for me, for that he gets 20-50% of whatever he brings in."

edwin said: "plus no one likes me. i would have mentioned it, but its obvious"

Heather said: "I like you, Edwinner! :)"

edwin said: "[QUOTE=Brigid]I like you, Edwinner! :)[/QUOTE] the feeling is mutual, toots! :D"

Heather said: ":) Toots! I haven't heard that one in a long time!"

raven said: "Aww, I like you, Edwing :)"

edwin said: "[QUOTE=raven]Aww, I like you, Edwing :)[/QUOTE] the feeling is mutual, toots! :D"

raven said: "I'm a toots too? Cool :)"

edwin said: "all females are toots! because they got t---, er nevermind! :eek:"

quinny said: "now now edwin! :rolleyes:"

edwin said: "see! that's why i moderated myself. so there was no need for enforcement! :D"

Darksat said: "Its ok anyway, were just happy to see you post more than 2 word sentances. ;)"

AngelaCea said: "I say we ban Edwin for not building pages for me and for keeping secrets about his online activity from us all, I want my lawsuit thread transferred over to the new forum BK. I want to hit Edwin with double barrels, he has it coming from me for sure :mad:"

Darksat said: "You really do think your don king dont you. :cool:"

edwin said: "i don't want to be banned! no way!"

Heather said: "I don't like to ban anyone, do you Raven?"

raven said: "Nope, I don't either. I'd rather find a way not to ban someone. You know, like make them send us chocolate or something :D"

Heather said: "Ahhh! Brilliant! ...I never thought of that. Along with our fan club, we can also accept gifts of chocolate! Perfect :)"

edwin said: "i have a very bad weakness for chocolate!"

AngelaCea said: "Remember girls, Edwin has been asked to webmaster your fan club and has refused to even comment on why he has not started on it. Hell all he has to do is build the pages, I would give him most of the ideas and he still won't do it. I would not be so nice to him in the future if I were you two :mad:"

edwin said: "i'm working on it. it may take a few years...i want it to be good!"

Heather said: "..Maybe Raven and I will just then have a secret society. In order to be a member you must woo us with the finest chocolates from around the world. Whaddaya think?"

Darksat said: "Il build your site if you send me a load of chocolate. ;)"

edwin said: "he has a supply of chocolate and viagra. that's how he hits on the high schoolers! :D"

Darksat said: "I would love to know how giving viagra to high schoolers would, :eek: No wait actually I wouldnt. I take it you have some expeience in this field."

AngelaCea said: "One of you crazy blokes should go over to the old forum and pull the thread on the B & R fan club and start the damned pages. The concept and the ideas are in that thread, so get off your arses and do something, first one that produces some good pages is the webmaster :)"

Darksat said: "Actually what I should do is get my existing projects finished. and im sure Edwin has pizzas to deliver. ;)"

AngelaCea said: "Right, without drive and investments of time you will not make it big :mad:"

quinny said: "[QUOTE=Darksat]Actually what I should do is get my existing projects finished.[/QUOTE] you mean you wouldn't drop them for the ladies :eek:"

Heather said: "Chocolate covered strawberries are the best. But I have to stop talking about them, I'm cutting back on my chocolate intake this year :( I want to be in good shape before summer. That takes some discipline."

Darksat said: "Were all full of addictions. :D"

AngelaCea said: "[QUOTE=Darksat]Were all full of addictions. :D[/QUOTE] I would say what you are full of DarkSat, but we have made a commitment to clean up the forum :mad: :confused: :cool:"

edwin said: "chocolate stimulates endorphin activitity in your brain."

AngelaCea said: "Candy has saved my life a few times Edwin I was getting sick one day and believe it or not a cigarette brought me out of it, it is amazing what a little substance abuse can do for the soul when you need it. Whatever happened to the topic here? OK, why do they join and not post Some members die. Some lose their computers to viruses since they are Microsoft Windows users. Many turn 16, get a car, start having fun, get a job, get a real life and never post again. Some get thrown out of the house like Ricky Jo and you never hear from them again. Others look at DarkSat and Edwin's posts, realize they will never be that smart, give up and get a job at the mall sweeping floors and cleaning the trash bins out. Many just can't find the URL to the forum again....."

Heather said: "BigT, Take your meds, please! That is uncool. I don't know what a lot of members join for either. Your assumptions are all correct, I think."

edwin said: "definitely take your meds! :D"

AngelaCea said: "What is not cool, I am not a mind reader, nor are others reading :confused:"

edwin said: "go s-l-o-w-l-y so he can get it! :cool:"

Heather said: "It is not cool to skip taking medication if it keeps you conscious. You are a very trenchant man that should stay on top of things like that!"

AngelaCea said: "So you two old Republicans are going to get on my good side this morning :confused: I thought we were going to turn this into a kinder and gentler forum with a thousand points of light :rolleyes: You two keep pushing me and it will be back to the old forum we go :p :p"

edwin said: "i am a big believer in "no moron left behind" so please pay attention :D"

Heather said: "I am being nice. Trenchant is a compliment. But in order to be trenchant, you have to be alive! This has nothing to do with being a Republican, it's a decision. This year I've decided to set the bar higher for myself. That's all. Life is too short not to do anything noteworthy. I want to be my personal best. I want to be a success. I don't think my life is over, not by a long shot. The world is a big place, and I'm not afraid. I've been to a couple of places , and the world that you "think" you live in, isn't that at all. There are whole other worlds out there awaiting you. It is your decision whether or not to go there. I like to. I want to empower myself in 2005, that's all.."

AngelaCea said: "Yes there are "worlds" out there, just look at the one Edwin lives in for example :rolleyes: Fact is that you have to live in this one that we are in, we all are limited by the resources available to us. If we do not have great wealth or have not built enough cash flow to grow then you recede. What we have in this would and specifically in the USA is great debt, including record consumer and government debt, the Chinese and Japanese are financing our nation by the purchase of government debt (treasury bonds). Should they pull their investments from the banking system it will collapse, but they have to keep financing our debt or they lose their largest customer. It is great to think positive but our government is running out of cash, that is why Bush asked Clinton and his Dad to make a direct appeal to folks to give to directly to the relief funds for the recent earthquake and tidal wave. The government just does not have the cash to give with war debts piling up and a record budget deficit. So you can try, but if the economy does not support the business you are in you go out of business. Why do you think I had to go to work for someone else? So I do not lose everything to this recession that I made before it started. All of us can only improve according to the resources available to us Brigid. Do you have rich friends to support your business plans? If so you may have a chance. I am just trying to get Edwin off of his rear end so we can make some money together, do you see how one can bang his head against the wall?"

Heather said: "That is all very true, Anthony. Truth is, the world is a bunch of crap. I agree. There is mounting debt everywhere and someday we will all die somehow. BUT. I am alive right now. And this life is mine. I can create a world of gloom and doom. Or not. If your business model is no longer supported, then it might be time to change it or abandon it, or take your lemons and make lemonade. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, you are a free adult make, so take it FWIW.."

AngelaCea said: "One who moves forward in bad times is one that believes better times are possible if they keep working hard. Some folks lost everything including their ability to help themselves, what do you tell them? Things are bad, but if slow cash flow is your only problem, there are others with worse situations, just watch the news tonight, you will see them."

SlitheryImp said: "Brigid - Not just a pretty face.... Great answer, if we don't 'evolve' we will never succeed. * EDIT - AnthonyCao - yes, if cash is your only problem, then you do not really have a problem...."

AngelaCea said: "SI, that page you have on Ireland is great, what are you trying to do with that, build a giant portal. You're a MS ASP programmer?"

SlitheryImp said: "no, not really, I have only just moved to Ireland 6 months ago and fell in love with the country and its people. But I could not find a simple website with some handy links and news, so I decided to make one myself. I mainly use it myself, lol, I don't have to search anymore, just go to my page and click on the link that I need. * Edit - I'm actually a Delphi programmer, now learning Asp.net"

AngelaCea said: "That is how a lot of pages are started, you can develop it into something great if you work on it. What are your skill sets, you did not answer my question about ASP/Microsoft?"

SlitheryImp said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea] What are your skill sets, you did not answer my question about ASP/Microsoft?[/QUOTE] sorry, I edited my post, basically I am a Delphi/Pascal programmer learning Asp.net"

AngelaCea said: "Tell us a bit about what ASP.net is, it is from M$, correct :confused: Maybe you start some threads on programming in those forums later to discuss it in greater detail. :) Where were you born, before you moved to Ireland :confused:"

Heather said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea]One who moves forward in bad times is one that believes better times are possible if they keep working hard.[/QUOTE] I believe that also. Working smart is also key to this. [QUOTE=AnthonyCea]Some folks lost everything including their ability to help themselves, what do you tell them? [/QUOTE] You don't tell them anything, you teach them. Then they can start to rebuild. I was amazed when I heard that there was an entire village that survived the tsunami. They were called the Morgan sea gypsies. Their elders passed down a bit of knowledge through the ages. One was that when water recedes quickly, it will return at the same rate. They fled for the hills ahead of the big wave and all 181 villagers survived. Now I know if I'm ever on an island and the water is receding REALLY bad, to go for higher ground. That might save my life someday. Also a few self defense classes won't hurt either. In case of just getting attacked some day. [QUOTE=AnthonyCea]Things are bad, but if slow cash flow is your only problem, there are others with worse situations, just watch the news tonight, you will see them.[/QUOTE] Very true. I do watch the news and I'm thankful I'm never on it! Bad stuff happens all the time. But I can't live in fear, either. (I understand if you ignore this post., T :) )"

SlitheryImp said: "Yeah, Asp.net is from Microsoft (the Dot.net Framework) I must say it is quite impressive, very easy to learn, and true OOP. (Object Oriented Programming) But, the only problem is, it must be hosted in a windows server, but, I am very happy with my host [URL=http://www.cityhost.com]CityHost[/URL]"

SlitheryImp said: "[QUOTE=AnthonyCea]Where were you born, before you moved to Ireland :confused:[/QUOTE] I was born in Surinam, lived in Australia for 18 years, then Holland for 9 years, and now I'm in Ireland"

AngelaCea said: "Good post Brigid, your best ever ;) SI, that is the problem with M$ programming, not open source, got to be everything Windows, just another tactic for the monopoly to sustain itself. Do you do open source programming?"

AngelaCea said: "[url]http://www.surinam.net/historical.html[/url] SI, maybe you should start a portal on the homeland. Is this where you are from?"

SlitheryImp said: "yes, that is where I was born, but, I only lived there for two years... I know absolutely nothing about the country, so setting up a portal wouldn't be an option."

edwin said: "can you believe there are no more arawaks in the caribbean! thats sucks!"

Heather said: "Thanks for the nice comments, BigT and Slippery. It is really sad that the arawak indians have been wiped out."

edwin said: "i never even knew about suriname before this thread. it sounds like my kind of place."

Heather said: "Maybe people sign up to get Email from the admin?"

edwin said: "probably. the dude from suriname died off already. lol! :D"

Heather said: "Or they just post one thing. It's weird."

AngelaCea said: "What the hell you two talking about Slithery is online right now. He is one of our best new members :confused:"

edwin said: "that's not the same guy!"

AngelaCea said: "[QUOTE=edwin]that's not the same guy![/QUOTE] Read post # 134 in this thread and take your foot out of your mouth :p"

edwin said: "you have your beliefs. i have mine! :mad:"

AngelaCea said: "You can never admit you are wrong Edwin :confused: :p :p"

quinny said: "no he is the same guy :rolleyes:"

AngelaCea said: "Edwin cares not if what he posts is correct, as long as he gets in a couple cheap posts before DarkSat returns and gets his cheap posts in :p :D :p"

JamesC said: "Wow it took me like forever to get to the end of this topic!! ;) Ummmm ,,,,,,, uhhhh ... what was the question again?? Oh yeah ..... Why do people sign up for a forum and not post anything? Ok I read every post here ..... lots of great reasons .... but I do not remember reading this reason which is one of the biggest reasons behind the question asked. Most of those that sign up and never contribute are those that just post one spam thread then poof you never hear from them again... :rolleyes: As for a person like myself I hardly ever post unless I can be of some sort of help. I might not always have the best idea, but I will do my best to give a second option or opinion on any question asked that not all of the choices have already been suggested. As for asking questions or asking for help that will only come when Google fails to give me the answer ��.. ;) Google is my friend ..... well sometimes it is anyways ...... lol"

edwin said: "there's no need to be helpful on every post. look at bigtony. he is helpful 0% of the time!"

Heather said: "I contribute what I can. Some posts are better than others. I really like to ask BigT questions he never answers. :)"

raven said: "Wow, James. You read the whole thread? :eek: I think you should go back and start over again incase you missed something... ;)"

edwin said: "why do people join a forum and become posting leader? because they were bred to win!"

quinny said: "boo hoo to you"

edwin said: "no need to cry quinny. you aren't out of alcohol are you?"

quinny said: "ah christ dis a bit early yet"

edwin said: "its almost 5? what are you waiting for?"

AngelaCea said: "James, good to have you back, since we lost DarkSat all we have is Edwin and we can not sustain a forum on Edwin alone, that is for sure. At least Edwin knows what time it is in Ireland :p :) :p"

edwin said: "a forum with edwin alone. interesting."

quinny said: "wrong it's 15:54"

edwin said: "well you still have an hour and 10 minutes though"

Darksat said: "I have returned to save you from crazy E"

edwin said: "you even saved this thread!"

Darksat said: "thats why im here. :p"

edwin said: "yeah buddy. this one is vintage!"