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Darren said: "I've set up a new link directory for [url=http://www.web-mastery.net/webmaster-directory/]link trades with Web-Mastery[/url][url="http:///webmaster-directory/"][/url] It works like this: Select submit. Put up our link as requested. Fill out the form with your link info and submit. Your site is checked for link, then queued. Next we manually check the link page - make sure it's not redirected or an orphan page. Once we see it's good, we approve you. You are sent an email with the location of your link. If you want a one-way link without linking back to us, you can do so for $19.99 one time. You can also check our sister directories at: [url="http://www.link-pimp.com/%3ELink-Pimp%5B/url"] [/url][url="http://www.webs-best-directory.com/"]Webs-Best-Directory[/url] [url="http://directory.sootle.com"]SootleDir[/url] [url="http://www.goongee.com/"]Goongee[/url] [url="http://www.link-pimp.com/"]Link-Pimp[/url] All of our links are straight through HTML with no funny business. Thanks for you consideration. All the pages are very spider friendly and we are spidered by all the major search engines constantly."

edwin said: "looking good. pretty decent number of categories too."

MaryC said: "Our product does no fall into any of your categories. Would you consider some of following? Education Computer Education Software Training Thanks, MaryC"

Darren said: "Hello Mary, All of the directories have a [url="http://www.web-mastery.net/webmaster-directory/society/education/"]Society/Education[/url] We'd also be happy to make appropriate sub-categories depending on the content of your site. We're attempting to keep the links in a clearly themed category. What we normally do, is when someone submits and we don't have a category, we just create the most appropriate ones."

llbeano said: "I visited web-mastery's directory sites and they are not that good, wouldn't recommend them"

quinny said: "thanks :rolleyes: you could last point out why they not that good"

capebretoner said: "[QUOTE=llbeano]I visited web-mastery's directory sites and they are not that good, wouldn't recommend them[/QUOTE] Did you join just for this purpose alone?"

raven said: "[QUOTE=capebretoner]Did you join just for this purpose alone?[/QUOTE] I was wondering the same thing, capebretoner. llbeano, you need to back up your statement."

edwin said: "you really think he's coming back to comment?"

Darren said: "[QUOTE=llbeano]I visited web-mastery's directory sites and they are not that good, wouldn't recommend them[/QUOTE] So don't. It's not like I asked you to. BTW, welcome and thanks for joining and thanks for the input."

Neutron2k said: "ok the word melon springs to mind... his justification was probably that its better than anything he could possibly do himself lol"

bew4194 said: "To the Recreation / sports categories can you add soccer to the list some time."

Darren said: "[QUOTE=bew4194]To the Recreation / sports categories can you add soccer to the list some time.[/QUOTE] Sure thing. [url=http://www.web-mastery.net/webmaster-directory/recreation/sports/soccer/]Soccer[/url]"

Neutron2k said: "ive never got why people call it soccer instead of football"

Bompa said: "[QUOTE=llbeano]I visited web-mastery's directory sites and they are not that good, wouldn't recommend them[/QUOTE] He doesn't like them and he has a right to not like them. He also does not need to justify what he likes and what he does not like. Although we always want criticism to be worded in such a way that it is not offensive, it's alway offensive :) The wise person learns for all forms of criticism and gives thanks. Criticism, solicited or not, is known as "customer feedback" and there is no other way to know what your visitors are thinking; it's really quite valuable. In this case, it may seem useless because he did not specify, but that could be taken by the admin as "there is room for improvement". That's not the most helpful feedback in the world, but we can not encourage more feedback without be gratefull for what we currently get. In one forum that I visit, people with suggestions are told "if you don't like it, post somewhere else". That's the absolute lack of customer regard. I'm glad this forum is so much better than that. Bompa"

edwin said: "in all reality, that isn't real feedback at all. he doesn't specify what site name he didn't like. he doesn't say why he didn't like it. and he never came back for a follow up. many people online would consider that a "troll" post"

Darren said: "I have no problem with criticism. This guy was more than entitled to criticize me and he did. However, criticism is a two-way street. That's why barbs from anonymous people with no contact information on the Internet will be taken only so seriously."

Bompa said: "[QUOTE=edwin]in all reality, that isn't real feedback at all. he doesn't specify what site name he didn't like. he doesn't say why he didn't like it. and he never came back for a follow up. many people online would consider that a "troll" post[/QUOTE] Hi Edwin, I understand what you're saying. I was using his comment as an example to make a point. Bompa"

Darren said: "If the point is, forums are wrong for running people off because they disagree with prevailing opinions, I agree with you."

Bompa said: "[QUOTE=web-mastery]I have no problem with criticism. This guy was more than entitled to criticize me and he did. However, criticism is a two-way street. That's why barbs from anonymous people with no contact information on the Internet will be taken only so seriously.[/QUOTE] Hi web-mastery, That was my point. If we take criticism in the normal everyday way, it is a two way street. One pokes, the other pokes back. Visitor: "I didn't like your sites." Site owner: "Why didn't you like them?" Visitor: "Cuz I didn't." Site owner: "That's not a reason, please be more specific. I can not help you, if you are vague." Visitor: "I'm not asking you to 'help me', just saying what I think". Site owner: "Well, if you don't want help, why are you here?" Nine times out of ten, the situation turns confrontational with the webmaster, (or vendor of any kind, not just webmasters), justifying his site and his actions and his/her "rights" to "do it his way". I was trying to convert the "critiicism" into feedback. Feedback is not necessarily a two way street, in that, customers are not obligated to give feedback nor are they obligated to justify it or identify themselves. All the responsibility for getting value from feedback is on the vendor. Maybe this guy was "just trolling", but as intelligent and creative human beings, we can make lemonade from lemons. Bompa"

Darren said: "I agree. No one wants to hear that someone didn't like their website. 'Feedback' and 'criticism' are two very different words. I guess feedback implies any comment from a contact form or feedback form and most of that will be one-way communications. There is a definite place for this and a one liner like "I don't like his directories" would be expected from a comment form. However, in a forum, we would expect that his comment was the opening salvo in an on-going dialogue between the site-owner (me) and the potential customer (him). We would engage and eventually find a common ground. I took his post to be more of an ad-hoc shot rather than a legitimate dialogue. So far history has vindicated my point, but you are right that I should probably have probed him more deeply for his points."

hk999 said: "it's nice of you to let us exchange links with your high traffic site ( # 54189 ) thank you, i'll do it today!"

chris3471 said: "[QUOTE=Neutron2k]ive never got why people call it soccer instead of football[/QUOTE] I know this thread is ancient but since someone else pulled it out of the closet I have to comment. N2k, over here we have a different sport called football so we can't call soccer football.:)"

raven said: "They don't have soccer and football in the UK? Oh, footsie or something. Maybe that's football over there?"

chris3471 said: "Well we play footsie over here but it's not a sport."

Sharky said: "i played footsie when i was little when a teachers not looking you stamp on someones toe :) but you have to avoid them stamping back and try and stamp again etc you get the idea :D"

quinny said: "different kind of footsie i'd be thinking..."

chris3471 said: "Yep different kind of footsie but I know that one too."

raven said: "[QUOTE=chris3471]Well we play footsie over here but it's not a sport.[/QUOTE] LOL! Not quite what I was talking about.. :p"

raven said: ":D So what am I thinking of, Quinny? Don't you have a real sport called footsie or footie or something? What is it? And wow, this thread has really gone off topic. This is the google forum. Okay, who's responsible for the jack?"

chris3471 said: "You see how old this thread is? Over 6 months. Is there a statute of limitations on thread jacking?"

quinny said: "[QUOTE=raven]:D So what am I thinking of, Quinny? Don't you have a real sport called footsie or footie or something? What is it? And wow, this thread has really gone off topic. This is the google forum. Okay, who's responsible for the jack?[/QUOTE] well we have gaelic football which is different again ....eh some people call football footie"